Functionally Autoimmune
Functionally Autoimmune
Polysaccharides For Immune Health and Brain Function W/ Dr. Lewis
Dr. John Lewis researcher and founder of Dr. Lewis Nutrition
This episode features Dr. John Lewis, the brilliant mind behind Dr. Lewis Nutrition, who shares his inspiring journey from childhood sports and bodybuilding to becoming a leading authority on health and nutrition. Discover how meeting two key individuals ignited his passion for the remarkable health benefits of polysaccharides found in aloe vera and rice bran, shaping both his career and life's mission.
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Hi everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Functionally Autoimmune. I'm so happy that you're here with me today. I have a fantastic guest on the show that I know you're going to love. Dr John Lewis is here with us today. He's the founder of Dr Lewis Nutrition and so many other things I can't wait to hear about. Thank you so much for being on the show with us today.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Brandy. It's my pleasure to be here. I really look forward to our conversation today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too. Before we really get started, I want you to give us a little bit more information about you. How did you end up in this field of nutrition and supplements and just health in general? What led you in that direction?
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, that goes all the way back to when I was a little kid, when my grandfather started pitching baseball to me in the backyard when I was I don't know four or five years old, and it put me on a path of playing sports. And then I got after high school. I got into drug-free competitive bodybuilding in college and I did that for several years, but I was not willing to go down a path of again taking drugs and, you know, doing a lot of things that people in bodybuilding ultimately get into, which, I mean, if you make a living at it, I guess that's okay, but I don't think a lot of people are actually making that much money as bodybuilders. But anyway, I shifted my focus into health from I guess you could call it more of physical sports performance perspective into more of a health performance perspective, into more of a health performance perspective, although I will say that bodybuilding definitely oriented me more into looking at how nutrition and exercise should be utilized or can be utilized for specific purposes. I think really, before getting into bodybuilding, I probably looked at food and activity just like most other people did. I was either eating for taste, not for health, and I was moving, or playing sports just because that was what I enjoyed doing. It was, you know, something fun to do with my friends. It wasn't because I said, well, I'm, you know, moving around a lot. Today. It's reducing my risk of heart disease. You know, there was no orientation or perspective about such things, but again, even though I didn't end up bodybuilding competitively for too many years, it definitely was.
Speaker 2:I would say one of those shifts in my life that helped me to be where I am today, but even probably more significantly than that, was meeting two people about 20 years ago who introduced me to their own perspectives of the use of polysaccharides, which not only changed my career, they changed my life. I mean, I owe those two people so much Dr Reg McDaniel on the aloe vera side and Barbara Kimley on the rice bran side. I met these two people who shared with me their perspectives and their experiences with these two polysaccharides, which I mean gosh. Up until that point I had no clue. I mean literally maybe a couple of lectures in biochemistry about saccharides in general, but no idea what those things could do beyond just being a source of fuel for the cells. I had no clue, and so it led me down a path of research, and here it's been now about almost 20 years looking at how these polysaccharides, these complex sugars from aloe vera and rice bran, are just so darn beneficial for health. And it's again it's been on.
Speaker 2:I've been on a long journey now for all these years, but I feel like there are many more things to do and it's the drive for me every day. It's really my obsession with the research we ended up conducting in people with moderate to severe Alzheimer's disease, which I'm no longer in academics full time. I'm now in business selling my products from that research. But again it completely changed what I was doing. I mean, it didn't, it was nothing planned, let's put it that way. It just you're in the right place at the right time or you meet people that come into your life for whatever reason you can't explain, but it ends up just taking you in an entirely different avenue or street. And so here I am today. You know, on this sort of journey of spreading a message about polysaccharides from Aloe Vera and Rice Brand, that 99% of the people I talked to were just like me. They had no clue what number one. Nobody knows what a polysaccharide is.
Speaker 1:I was going to say, for anyone listening who doesn't know what that is maybe you've never even heard the term Can you give us a little bit of a breakdown on what a polysaccharide is and why you feel like it's so important?
Speaker 2:Absolutely so. First of all, we as Americans have been literally conditioned for the last what? 40, 50 years to think that anytime we hear the word sugar, immediately what do you think Bad?
Speaker 1:Bad yeah.
Speaker 2:Bad, right. There's just no doubt in your mind that you hear the word sugar, you immediately think bad. You may like the fact that it's sweet and it tastes good, but ultimately, at the end of the day, you oh, it's bad. The problem with that thought, though, is that mother nature provides us with lots of different types of sugars, and so there are two very important characteristics about any sugar that you have to consider, and so anytime somebody says the blanket statement all sugar is bad for me me as a scientist, as an author, as somebody who's very particular about the language I'm sorry, that's an ignorant statement and it's a very uninformed statement. So what do I mean by that? Again, sugars are defined by at least two major characteristics One, their source and two, their biochemical structure. So a monosaccharide, the simplest form of sugar, the best example was high fructose corn syrup. If you're consuming that stuff every day, you're spiking your insulin, you're spiking your glucose, you're setting in motion all of these bad metabolic effects that, ultimately, you will pay for down the road with diabetes, heart disease, cancer, maybe all the above. So I think most people, we can all agree that eating a lot of high fructose corn syrup is bad for us. That's the simplest form of sugar. The next more complex sugar is a disaccharide, something like table sugar or sucrose. Again, I would say that most people would agree that eating table sugar every day is probably not the best idea for health. But then the most complex form of sugars are polysaccharides. These things are so dense in content they cannot even be drawn, they literally cannot be drawn on a piece of paper. They're like 5D structures basically, but they are so dense and coated with information that this is the type of information our cells utilize, guided by the genes, to function. And so these polysaccharides from aloe vera and rice bran I would put up against anything else mother nature provides for us for health, for a health promoting effect, and I mean there are certainly things like curcumin out there that have been widely studied, obviously very beneficial, have lots of healing effects, but again, based on not just our research here at the University of Miami but other researchers around the world, time after time, you just see the amazing health-promoting effects that these polysaccharides have.
Speaker 2:So I'm asking your listeners and anybody that's hearing this message to make sure that you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and be mindful of the language, because the ones from aloe vera and rice bran are actually very good for us. There's nothing bad about them, there's no downside to taking them, and I don't care if you're into the carnivore movement or whatever your dietary philosophy is. A few hundred milligrams or a couple of grams of these polysaccharides from these two plants every day is not going to ruin your ketosis status or, you know, disrupt your carnivore craze or whatever that is status, or, you know, disrupt your carnivore craze or whatever that is. These things have such incredible health promoting benefits and they are nothing like sucrose or high fructose corn syrup. So let's get that straight. We need to be very clear about the language and the use of the term properly. So these are complex sugars that are actually very good for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's really an important point is not to be afraid of everything just because it has a word that seems scary for other reasons. So can you go into a little bit about these specific? You mentioned aloe vera and you mentioned rice bran. So these specific polysaccharides, can you go into? What about them makes them really important for us? What kind of things can they do for us? Why should we be looking for them?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, no one that I know of. I mean, even though we live in Miami, we have aloe vera growing in our backyard. I don't know anyone. I don't know about you. I don't know anyone who eats aloe vera. So a lot of times when people hear me give a lecture and I'm talking about the research, one of the typical things that somebody in the audience will think of is oh well, I'm just going to go start eating aloe vera gel. No, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Aloe vera gel is 99% water and then you have other materials. Once you freeze dry it, take all the water out, then you have other materials in there. I mean it's actually got literally everything amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins, minerals, these polysaccharides, elements, cofactors I mean there are thousands of different materials in that aloe vera gel once you extract the water out. But you need to have it concentrated into a dose that you can have an actual therapeutic or physiological benefit. So again, this is a very special let's call it situation where you can't just replace these things by eating more. I don't know sweet potatoes, or you know celery, or lettuce, or spinach or something else. These are very specific compounds from this particular plant. The same with rice bran.
Speaker 2:70 to 80% of the rice sold in the world is white rice. Well, rice has three major components to it. You've got the outer husk or hull. That's inedible, so that gets taken off. The very next layer is the bran and that also, again, most of the rice that's sold in the world gets stripped off and that's either thrown away or fed to livestock. So actually, most of the time, if it's not thrown away, the cows or the pigs or the chickens are eating the most beneficial part of the rice, and that white endosperm that's left over is what we call white rice. That, again, most of the world eats. So if you're eating some brown rice you're actually getting some of that nutritional material that the rice plant provides to us.
Speaker 2:But again, I would still argue that, and especially if you're past middle age and you're dealing with some really serious health challenge, you're probably not going to get enough of that rice bran unless you're eating a gallon of brown rice every day. So again, these are very special compounds that it really requires a dietary supplement to enjoy the benefits of nature. And I'm not telling any of our listeners that you can eat a crappy diet and then just take these polysaccharides and you're going to be optimally healthy. You can't, as you know, you can't supplement your way to good health. But what I'm telling you is that these polysaccharides have the ability to fill in the gaps nutritionally where most people are lacking today, due to a whole host of reasons, as you know. And so these are just very special compounds that ultimately they do several things.
Speaker 2:Number one they're basically signaling mechanisms for our immune system. And what does that mean? Well, our immune system is much more than just our first line of defense against infection. Our immune system is actually like the conductor of the symphony orchestra. If the orchestra is all of our other major organ systems, the immune system is the conductor and it's talking to all the other major organ systems and it's keeping the symphony in balance, or that's what it's trying to do. All of our major organ systems need to be in balance. It's very crucial that the immune system is modulated, surveillance, functional and able to do that job. Otherwise, you can't possibly expect the cardiovascular system, the endocrine system, the central nervous system, all the other major systems, to be doing their job appropriately as well. So that's a very important role that, again, these polysaccharides help to signal to the immune system to then do what it does and keeping everything else in balance. We've also showed in our research I mentioned infections they're absolutely able to help the body fight off infection, whether it's virus, bacteria, fungus, whatever.
Speaker 2:It helps to lower chronic inflammation. We know that everything I mean. You cannot think of any one chronic disease that doesn't have a chronic inflammatory component to it. So that's very important to tamper down that chronic inflammation. We know that it helps to turn on the adult stem cell production process. So as we age, unfortunately we lose that capacity, just like so many other things. We get weaker, we get fatter, we are telomere shortened all these other things bad happen to us as we age. But we can help to improve that production of adult stem cells. Again, it's like a signaling mechanism for those CD14 cells.
Speaker 2:That's one of the things that we published. It helps to rebalance the different components of our immune system. So we have this ongoing balancing act between the pro side of inflammation and the anti side of inflammation. We need to try to keep that in balance as much as possible. Again, if we're involved in an auto accident or we have a broken bone or a torn ligament or something, then we need those pro signals going off and doing their job.
Speaker 2:But once that acute damage gets repaired, then we need the anti side to come in and shut down those signals. If they can't get shut down, then that's where that chronic inflammation takes over and again. These polysaccharides help to regulate and balance that. So I mean there are just a whole host of things. We've published gosh, just from our Alzheimer's and multiple sclerosis studies. We've published seven papers. Then from our HIV, non-alcoholic, fatty liver disease and healthy subjects clinical trials, we published another, I think, six or seven papers. So we're talking like 13, 14 articles we've published just from our research at the university of Miami over the last almost two decades, not to mention again lots of other things around the world. So these are very special compounds that do a lot of different things mechanistically with very specific effects that ultimately lead to better health.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is amazing because that's what everyone wants. Everyone wants health and longevity and not to be in the hospital, not to be suffering in old age and all of those things. So when we're talking about these polysaccharide compounds, are we looking for both of them? Do we need each of them? Is there a combination that is important? Is it one or the other? What does that look like?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. So I took the best of all of our research and, again looking at from Dr McDaniel's side, the aloe vera side and Ms Kimley the rice bran side, and I've put these together in the formula that we call today daily brain care saccharides. But if you drill down just a little bit deeper, they're similar but yet distinct and so they have very complimentary yet slightly different effects on the, the body. I mean, you know, unfortunately we're limited in terms of what we can conclusively say due to money, right, I mean unfortunately, at the end of the day, you need money to conduct research. We can't do this work for free, so we only know what we've studied so far. I mean we've, we've published a lot and we've studied a lot, but there are just gosh Brandy, I mean, if we had, you know, bill Gates's money, or some Warren Buffett, you know somebody like that, they're all sort. I mean we're not. We're not in short supply of ideas or questions, we're in short supply of funding to be able to run those studies, to answer all these questions that we have. But again, it's just incredible how many different effects we've already published and then what else we believe could happen. I mean, and a lot of these things, of course, are due to, you know, individual customers or anecdotal cases. But yes, I mean, you're not.
Speaker 2:There's no problem with putting these things together, almost like a multivitamin mineral complex and, you know, putting several different things together at once and then enjoying the benefit of all that. There's no hypo responsiveness. I mean, there's no such thing, as you know. Oh well, I'm just going to take it for a month and then I'm, you know, I'm done forever. No, you, you take these things every day. I mean, oxygen is our first nutrient and then after that we need vitamins, we need minerals, we need these other macronutrients.
Speaker 2:And in my opinion I mean, I've been on my own formula for 10 years. I've had my mother on it for almost 15. My wife was uh, has been on it for over five when she got pregnant the first time. She's pregnant again. Our daughter just turned four back in March. I've had her on it since I introduced solid food in her diet at six months. So you know, this isn't just about treatment or dealing with a health challenge when you get it. This is about preventing that stuff in the first place, which to me is just as important. As you know, again, you're being diagnosed with something. And now, what do you do? No well, let's prevent stuff from happening to us like that in the first place, and again I would argue that these materials are are just as beneficial for that as anything else that mother nature provides to us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that and I'm always pro. You know natural natural resources.
Speaker 1:So you know, like you mentioned earlier, nature provides all of these different options for us, and it does it for a reason, and it does it because there are things that, more often than not, they're things that our body needs.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously, there's toxic things out there that we shouldn't be eating, but you know, a lot of these things are created for our own health and for our own benefit, and so I love that you have found these elements that are provided in nature, that are there for us, these elements that are provided in nature, that are there for us, that are things that our body knows and needs and knows what to do with, because there's so much that we eat today that is not food, it's not natural and it's not something that our body even recognizes as a substance that it wants to use.
Speaker 1:So I think this is really great that you've found these things. You've done the research, you're seeing it, doing great things with your own family, with yourself and with the people that you've had in these research studies. So you mentioned you give it to your four-year-old child as well. So I think that makes it a pretty good case that it's safe, it's something that's not going to harm you. And my other question was going to be is there any downside whatsoever of having these compounds in your life?
Speaker 2:Not a bit. And remember I started her at six months. I would have given them to her from day one, but you know the polysaccharide material is a little dense, so it wouldn't. There was no way to give it to her, you know, until she learned how to swallow and you know drink fluid better. And usually the recommendation is you start introducing solid foods to a human at six months. So, but I mean I would have given it to her at day one. But no, there was absolutely no downside.
Speaker 2:And I mentioned my own family's use. Number one, because I would be a hypocrite if I was selling something that I wasn't taking for myself or I wasn't, my family wasn't using. But number two, literally from cradle to grave and all of us in between, there's no downside to taking these polysaccharides. I mean I, dr McDaniel, and I have never discovered, for example, any medication, be it over the counter or prescription, that you'd be concerned about having some sort of an adverse interaction with. There's no such thing like that, of course, any other dietary supplement, any type of diet. I mean there's literally nothing that we've discovered.
Speaker 2:And he's been at this since, actually, the almost 40 years. This is going back to just beyond, like 1985, 86. So he's going now into like 40 years of this. He's about 20 years ahead of me, but combined together I mean we're talking about nearly 60 years of experience between the two of us, not to mention all the other people that he previously worked with in some of the research before he and I met. But you're talking about literally a couple of hundred combined years of experience among all of us where there's literally no downside. I mean there's, you have.
Speaker 2:You have everything to gain and nothing to lose of taking again and again if you're into the carnivore thing, that's fine, you know, but take your 500 milligrams, or even a couple of grams of these polysaccharides every day along with your red meat, and you know you'll enjoy the benefit. I mean, there's nothing, I, I, there's no case, in other words, in nearly 20 years of doing this, both in research and now in business, where I've seen oh no, you shouldn't take these.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's. That's really great too, because and I and I think too it's it's such a natural thing that you know, our body knows what to do with it and so it uses it in the way that it needs to use it. And so a lot of times that's when we, when we see such benefit, with no, with no bad outcomes, when you're talking about dosing for different people, you know everyone's different. Some people are really tall, some people are really short, like everybody's different physiologically. So when we talk about dosing, is there a huge difference depending on who you are, your age, those types of things. If you already have chronic illness, if you don't, is it? What does the dosing look like?
Speaker 2:This is a great question as well, and I think it's also a good time to make sure that your listeners know that I don't want anybody to leave this conversation and say that well, lewis said we're using nutrition to treat disease. I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that the nutritional model is altering I'm sorry, enabling our physiology. In other words, it's providing the raw materials that the genes interpret that information and then they instruct the cells how to function and then the body's own inherent intelligence has the ability to repair, restore and heal itself or return itself to homeostasis. That is not at all the pharmacological model of taking one chemical, altering a metabolic pathway to treat a symptom or a disease a completely different paradigm. So I'm not at all talking about treating disease here. What I'm talking about is providing materials that are very powerful, that allow the body to restore itself. But to answer and so, with that said, to answer your question, yes, I definitely, if somebody has. For example, I've worked with some very severe people with cancer or severe cancer cases, and so I would recommend to them to take a much bigger dose. They need much more nutritional support to help the body overcome that, if it can, compared to somebody like myself, for example, who's basically taking them for prevention, and, of course, anybody who's around middle age or even older. Even if you don't have any health challenges, you've already been exposed to so much pollution, radiation, all this crap floating around in the environment today chemicals, plastics. You know, maybe you've taken too many drugs, you've smoked, you've drank alcohol, you've not exercised, you've eaten a poor diet, accumulated a lot of things that have ultimately not led you down a healthy path. But that person definitely needs more nutritional support than, again, somebody who's been more forthright in trying to take care of him or herself. So I mean, I'm being kind of broad here just to say that, yes, depending on someone's age and body size and what their current health status is, I would work with people individually as much as anybody's interested to try to, you know, be very specific in what the daily dose should be. But for the most part I would say that and we have it in both a powder and a capsule For the powder, I take two scoops in the morning and two scoops in the evening.
Speaker 2:So two scoops is two and a half grams. So we're talking, you know, roughly 10 grams of material a day that I take. But and I'm past middle age but even though I take care of myself, I work out every day, I eat what I think is a very optimal diet, but I still know that I don't get these polysaccharides from food and so they're very important to me. Again, based on my own research. I mean, I've seen this stuff for myself.
Speaker 2:This isn't like, you know, third-hand information or oh well, yeah, joe said, do this and you know this is what will happen. No, this is all published in the scientific literature, peer-reviewed, documented for everybody to see. And you know, just go to pubmedgov. It's the National Library of Medicine's clearinghouse database for all of the indexed scientific information out there. Type in my name polysaccharides and Alzheimer's disease, multiple sclerosis, and you'll pull up all of our papers. Or, if anyone's interested, they can email me and I'll send them to send you those papers. But again, all this information is published. I mean this isn't you know me trying to be slick or deceptive or secretive or anything. It's all out there. I mean it's widely accessible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, you and your team have definitely done your homework and done all of these studies and I think I think that speaks a lot to to your passion for this substance, but also making sure that your claims are substantiated and that you, you know, you've seen, you've seen it in action and I think that's really great. So anybody out there who's who wants to read about that? I mean, I'm kind of a scientific paper junkie. I read them all the time, but that's just me and I'm fascinated by it. Not everyone loves that type of reading, but if you are someone who's interested, I think it's great to go out and look for those and read those studies and see that information and what was found and what was discovered and how it was used. A lot of times it's very eyeopening just to kind of to kind of read those and get a different perspective of how those studies are done and what they, what they find. And so, yeah, I would encourage anyone to go out and find those and read those.
Speaker 2:Well, the bottom line is you can read some sort of summary article about an original article, but you're taking basically you're just taking whoever wrote the summary articles word for it, right? I mean, you're taking that person's ability to read a scientific article and then summarize it properly, and you don't know if that person is writing it because they have some sort of bias or they've been paid by big pharma or big food to say something that you know it's maybe bending the truth or trying to. I mean, in my case, I could see big pharma coming after me because we're showing incredible effects of these polysaccharides that ultimately would have a significant impact on their bottom line. I mean, big pharma doesn't want healthy people, they want sick people, and that's not a conspiracy theory, that is fact yeah big pharma needs sick people, otherwise they're not in business.
Speaker 2:so there's no benefit to our country being healthy. They need sick people, otherwise they don't make money. So that's not a conspiracy theory, that's fact.
Speaker 2:But, again to your point. I mean, read the articles yourself and people. Can you know if anybody's interested listening to this and wants to read our articles on Alzheimer's and multiple sclerosis? I'm very proud of all of that work we've conducted and I'm happy to share those articles because it's basically my life's work and it spurred me from a career in research where I was not intending to go out into business but because I couldn't get NIH and Alzheimer's Association to give me more funding to extend this research, which, oh, by the way, only happened because of the generosity of a family who lost four family members to Alzheimer's disease and the wife of the husband and wife heard Dr McDaniel giving a lecture and she felt very inspired by the work that he was doing anecdotally, and so she and her husband agreed to give us, or give him, this money for research and he was not affiliated with the university at that point in his life and he called me and he said hey, john, we have the opportunity to do a clinical trial with the polysaccharides. We just have to do it in Alzheimer's. And so that's how I wouldn't even be sitting here talking to you today if it wasn't for the generosity of this one family, because, I mean, you just don't find the government or these foundations supporting that kind of research. They're not interested in it. They don't want to support nutrition research. They want to support research on chemicals or something related to genetics that they can then license with big pharma or with a biotech company to be able to make millions or billions of dollars.
Speaker 2:And again, that's not a conspiracy theory, that's fact and nobody can tell me otherwise, because that was the life I lived for 20 years, so I know it firsthand. I don't care about anybody's opinion on that topic either. Nobody can tell me otherwise because I lived it and I chose to get out of it. Being in business in the dietary supplement industries no boleteries either, boleteries either I've already had one company basically stealing my formula and selling, selling my product as their own.
Speaker 2:But yeah, whatever I, I, you know it. Just there are lots of scummy people out there in the world that do bad things, and so you just keep going and doing what you do and I'm very passionate about what I'm doing and this is what I'm going to continue doing until I take my last breath, if that's one more day or 40 more years or something in between, whatever, but I know that my product helps people. My research is very good and that's all that matters to me at this point and continuing to move forward and building my business and spreading this message of how polysaccharides can help people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. I'm always supportive of anyone who's trying to help people, who's trying to do the right thing, who's talking about how nutrition can help us. I mean, there's just there's so many things that we can do that aren't being expressed out there. There's so many things that we can do that aren't being expressed out there, and so the fact that you've spent so much time doing the work, doing the research and then getting it out there for people is really amazing. So, speaking of getting it out there for people, where can people find you if they want to reach out, if they want to find more information, if they want to reach out for your research studies any of that where can people find you?
Speaker 2:Thank you for that. Well, the best source of information, in terms of the most comprehensive information, would be drlewisnutritioncom. That's D-R no period Lewis, L-E-W-I-S nutritioncom. We have all the major social media channels that handle Dr Lewis Nutrition as well. But again, on our website we have articles, we've got blogs, we've got podcasts like this one, product reviews, testimonials I mean, we've got a literal ton of information there and so anybody can go there. We have our email address there, phone number there.
Speaker 2:If people are interested in asking me questions about the research, our products, effects, I mean anything. I'm happy to help anybody who has an interest. And again, as we mentioned before, if you'd like to read those articles, I'm happy to send you those PDFs. But I'm grateful for the opportunity today to talk to you and have this conversation and hopefully at least one person will feel inspired by it and want to learn more. And you know it's just building this platform one step at a time and connecting with one life at a time and hopefully that person making you know, having a grassroots effort of building this message and spreading this message and hopefully, over the rest of my life, continuing to make a difference in as many people's lives as I can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I love that and anybody listening. Don't worry, I'll put all of that information into the show notes. So if you can't write it down, if you're driving something like that, just go back into those notes. You can easily get a clickable link to get directly to Dr Lewis's website or social media is whatever it is that you're looking for, and I really encourage all of you to reach out, ask questions, look up those scientific papers, whatever is speaking to you right now. I encourage you to reach out and get more answers Now, while it's fresh in your mind, while you're thinking about it. Do that, because these are things that are just going to help you in the long run and everybody, everybody loves and wants that.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, no I was just going to say, I don't know if I didn't even. I don't think I even mentioned the flagship product by name daily brain care, just so everybody's clear. If they're, if they're curious is what we call our flagship product, based on all of those clinical trials. So just for clarity sake, I don't think I mentioned the name of the product at this point, but it's daily brain care.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, yes, Sometimes, sometimes people.
Speaker 2:You know, if I'm giving a lecture where it's a CME level event, then obviously I can't even mention my own company name, let alone the brand of the product. So I'll have people immediately what's the name of this product, you know? So I just want to make sure people are clear what the name of the product is.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I'll put that in the notes too, just so that when you guys go to the website, you, if you're confused or can't remember, I'll put that there, just so that you remember, uh, the product name that we've been talking about. Um as well. But always ask questions. If you, if you have any questions, reach out to Dr Lewis and ask him questions. I'm sure he'll help you find what you're looking for.
Speaker 1:But um definitely yeah, thank you so much for being on the show today. Thank Thanks for sharing your research and all the work that you've been doing, and that's fantastic information. I think this is something that is beneficial for people and it's not something that's out there readily available for people to know and to find, and so I appreciate you being on the show today and sharing that with everyone so that anyone listening has this knowledge and information now as well.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much again for the opportunity. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and thank you everyone for listening and joining us again and we will catch you on our next episode. Bye-bye.